“Vehicles” Larger Than Earth Are Hovering Around Saturn, Says Ex Lockheed/NASA Scientist

Picture of a large unidentified luminous source hovering near one of Saturn’s Rings. Via “The Ringkmakers of Saturn” by Dr. Norman Bergrun

In Brief

  • The Facts:
    • Long time senior scientist at Ames Research Centre & Lockheed Martin, Dr. Norman Bergrun wrote a book called The Ringmakers of Saturn.

    • In it he uses data and pictures captured by the Voyager capsules to explain why he believes large extraterrestrial vehicles are "proliferating" around Saturn.

  • Reflect On:

    Is this really that far fetched? Years ago the idea of UFOs in our own atmosphere was ridiculed and considered a conspiracy. Today it's no longer taboo and well documented.

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“There are unidentified flying objects. That is, there are a hard core of cases – perhaps 20 to 30 percent in different studies – for which there is no explanation…We can only imagine what purpose lies behind the activities of these quiet, harmlessly cruising objects that time and again approach the earth. The most likely explanation, it seems to me, is that they are simply watching what we are up to.” 

Margaret Mead “UFOs – Visitors from Outer Space?,” Redbook, vol. 143, September 1974.

What is it about the human psyche that labels “far out” and “fringe” hypotheses, opinions, and evidence as false or not possible? Why do we have difficulty entertaining discoveries that do not fit within the framework of accepted knowledge? Furthermore, who is responsible for setting the limits of acceptable knowledge? Why has real phenomenon been ridiculed throughout human history?

Hundreds of years ago the Catholic Church and State labelled scientists as heretics. New discoveries were met with harsh criticism and scientists were even convicted and accused of spreading false information. This is because new information is always damaging to the perception of reality given to us by “intellectual authorities.” In many cases it can threaten the power they’ve accumulated.

In many ways our world hasn’t changed, we still have an authoritarian and Orwellian “fact checker” that’s patrolling the internet telling people what is and what isn’t true. Among many weapons these fact checkers use to persuade the perception of people regarding what’s happening in our world today, ridicule is one of them.

Ridicule has long been used to debunk the idea that Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), now known as “Unknown Ariel Phenomenon” or UAPs, exist. Placing the topic in the “conspiracy theory” bucket was a tactic used by governments and intelligence agencies to discourage independent investigation into a phenomenon that, for more than 75 years they’ve been well aware of.

Roscoe Hillenkoetter, the very first director of the Central Intelligence Agency admitted to this, claiming that there has been an “official campaign of ridicule and secrecy” that has taken place. Other UFO researchers like Dr. Jacques Vallee, and whistleblowers like Richard Dotty, a former Air Force Intelligence Officer, have described their knowledge of government staging alien abductions for psychological warfare purposes.

Objects performing maneuvers and travelling at speeds that no known man-made piece of machinery can, defying our understanding of aerodynamics and what’s physically possible, often performing evasive maneuvers to avoid our own aircraft are indeed “real and not visionary or fictitious” as General Nathan Twining, the former Chief of Staff for the United States Air Force described them in 1947. Here’s a great example from 1976 if you’d like to dive deep into one, but these seem to be daily occurrences around the globe.

Today, the Pentagon and governments from around the world have admitted to this reality and have released verified video footage, documentation, radar tracking data and more to show for it. The idea of “crashed crafts” has even gone mainstream.

For example, Eric W. Davis, a renowned astrophysicist who worked with the Pentagon UFO program stated that he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department Agency, as recently as March 2020 about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this Earth.”

Christopher Mellon, a former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary for Intelligence from 1997 to 2002 has confirmed that he was  present during this testimony. He himself has been quite outspoken about the phenomenon over the past few years.  Dr. David Clarke, an investigative journalist, reader and lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University who was also the curator for The National Archives UFO Project from 2008–2013, came across some interesting documents suggesting that the UK was desperate to capture UFO technology.

But why now? The U.S. government, as well as others, have already or are in the process of setting up official branches of government to study the phenomenon, but many UFO researchers have already uncovered the fact that they’ve been studying the phenomenon for years.

The bulk of what is known and what has been discovered about the phenomenon remains classified, and given the track record government has with disseminating truth to the public, what we get from them with regards to this phenomenon is and will be, most likely, a very watered down, sanitized version of disclosure. An important question to ask is, are governments trying to shape our perception regarding the phenomenon, as they do with so many other major topics for their own motives?

“Vehicles” Larger Than Earth Are Hovering Around Saturn?

One thing we don’t see within the mainstream UFO disclosure world are the many testimonies, stories and experiences that several high level space and defense scientists have disseminated throughout the years. The mainstream has been relaying to the public that military encounters with UFOs have been occuring and are real, yet they continue to ignore the testimony of some very interesting people who would have some knowledge regarding the nature of the phenomenon, including many high ranking military people who have spoken out over a period of many decades.

One of these people was the late Dr. Norman Bergrun. Bergrun was a senior scientist at NASA’s Ames Research Center. He pioneered the methodology of thermal ice prevention design. He is also credited with roll-stability laws for airplanes and missiles. Bergrun was the manager of test planning and analysis for the Polaris Underwater Launch Missile System and evaluated satellite system applications at Lockheed Martin.

*In his book, the “Ringmakers of Saturn“, Bergrun provides photographic evidence taken by Voyager 1 and 2 space probes, of what he refers to as large extraterrestrial “vehicles.” Sure, they may be something unexplainable and not extraterrestrial vehicles, but what’s intriguing is his strong belief that that’s indeed what they are. It begs the question, how does he know? Has he been privy to more information beyond the photographic data presented in his book?

According to him,

Existence of extraterrestrial space vehicles of enormous size and power is a fact, the significance of which is difficult to grasp, let alone assess.


He documents how strange luminous sources seen around Saturn have been a common theme throughout the history of astronomy.

Luminous sources at Saturn have been observed, notably by Herschel, Knight and Ainslie. In one instance, a fiery source moved suddenly away from the A-ring outer edge. In another unrelated instance a bright, elongated source pursuing a straight-line course entered the A-ring outer edge. After these dramatic events, luminous sources did not become a specific subject of inquiry as might be expected – that is, until this analysis many years later.


The luminous sources, or “extraterrestrial vehicles” Bergrun is alluding to are huge. Saturn’s rings alone are dozens of Earth diameters wide. The picture below comes from Bergruu’s book via Voyager photographic data. It shows an unidentified objects that seems to be bigger than planet Earth. According to him, they are “proliferating” as time goes on.

Below is an illustration from his book showing just how large these mysterious “vehicles”, as he calls them, are.

Norman published this book in 1986, and more than two decades later he gave a rare interview  with Project Camelot . In that interview he spoke of stories and pictures he’d seen and heard from his colleagues about UFOs, and how these pictures are highly classified. In that interview he also speaks of flying saucers being photographed within Earth’s atmosphere as well, and a supposed extraterrestrial encounter Apollo 11 had with tall human looking dark black skinned beings.

All of this is “quite out there” for the human psyche perhaps, although it’s no longer taboo to talk about UFOs, contemplating the existence of vehicles larger than our planet might be a little too much for some people to handle at this point of time.

What’s interesting about these claims and Bergurn’s background is that he’s not the only one making such unimaginable claims. There are others with “credible” backgrounds doing the same thing, and have been doing the same thing for decades. 

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